Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. On Monday this week, we had a joint retreat with the National Assembly Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources and the Kenya National Human Rights Commission (KNHRC) . One of the issues was, again, from Ikolomani, where a young man complained...

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Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for an opportunity to comment on the State of the Nation Address by His Exellency, Hon. (Dr.) William November 26, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 10 Sen. MummaSamoei Ruto. First, I thank Kenyans for creating the tool of the State of the Nation Address...

Sen. Mummathe Mathari facility. I forget the other one. During all these years, we have just started the thirteenth year since devolution was rolled out.Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the national Government investment in national referral facilities has not been much to the credit of the Kenya Kwanza. I know that...

Sen. Mumma I will repeat that.

Sen. Mumma Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on a matter of national concern regarding the impact of the delayed enactment of the County Government's Additional Allocations Bills for the 2023/2024, 2024/2025 and...

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for an opportunity to contribute to the Statements. I wish to contribute to the Statement by Sen. Hezena by applauding the Maa community for the beautiful cultural event they held, an event that left all of us in awe. We hope that the...

Sen. Mumma Parliament should help to streamline laws and procedures relating to mining, so that they do not end up undermining the human rights of communities on lands that actually have minerals under the ground. This has been happening a lot in the coast. It is not just that the...

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Hon. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to ask a question. Hon. CS, welcome to the Senate and thank you for your response on Makueni. My question is; does the Ministry have a programme around the national Government partnership with county governments, to ensure operationalisation of the...

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I welcome the Cabinet Secretary to the Senate. My question is whether the housing projects you are undertaking are ensuring that you protect the minimum rights of persons who were evicted for the houses to be built, so that they do not...

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to contribute to the Statement by Sen. Cherarkey. I wish Sen. Cherarkey had begun by apologising for the statement he made in church.

Sen. Mumma Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

Sen. Mumma I wish Sen. Cherarkey---

Sen. Mumma The statement by Sen. Cherarkey raises an issue that we must discuss as a House. We have all seen in the media that several families are mourning the loss of their loved ones who lived in Tanzania and died during the skirmishes that followed the elections. This is...

Sen. Mumma Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not understand why he wants to raise a point of order on my wishes. I was just wishing. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record) Mr. Speaker, Sir, can I be heard in silence, please?

Sen. Mumma Sen. Eddy, may the Senator for Nandi County be heard in total silence? November 11, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 20 Sen. Mumma Mr. Speaker, Sir, the effect of this provision is that papers or reports received when the Senate is on recess cannot be transmitted to the relevant committees...

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wish to contribute to the statements by Sen. Hamida on the matter of young people being recruited to Russia and Gender Based Violence (GBV) . I think the Ministry concerned with labour has not done this House justice. If you check our...

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Sen. Cathy, do you have another question? Sen. Mumma Madam Temporary Speaker, please, allow me a chance to ask my second question.

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Sen. Cathy, can you give me the number of the question you are reading out to the Cabinet Secretary? November 5, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 44 Sen. Mumma Madam Temporary Speaker, allow me to state this. I have been given answers---

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, as you have noticed, there are a number of Questions that you have not tackled because of a heavy load of questions during this session. I believe you will be scheduled to come back to the Senate to tackle the remaining ones. ADJOURNMENT

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Question No. 051 RATIO OF MALE-TO-FEMALE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICERS AND INITIATIVES FOR GBV AND FEMICIDE Sen. Mumma Madam Temporary Speaker, on Question No. 051, what I would have asked if I had been given a chance is that the first question be deferred to another time because it was...

Sen. Mumma: Madam Temporary Speaker, on Question No. 051, what I would have asked if I had been given a chance is that the first question be deferred to another time because it was paraphrased by I do not know who. Therefore, the answer that has been given by the...

Sen. Mumma Madam Temporary Speaker, I wish you would listen, then make the ruling because this is absolutely important. I submitted this in March. If questions are distorted without Members being told, then you should at least allow people to discuss it, then you can make your ruling. That is...

Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Sen. Cathy, proceed to the next Question. November 5, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 49

Somebody has to go, add and so forth. However, as part of the history of this country, it is recognised that those who did not have land were given Kshs400,000. As I said, I can admit I was there because I was also a victim of the forest eviction.Therefore, compensation...

Sen. Mumma Madam Temporary Speaker, I will move on to Question No.121.

Sen. Mumma Look at the Order Paper and see the questions that are before the House today. We have Question No.51 and Question No.121. If you we do not follow what is in the Order Paper, you can read a Question that the CS does not have an answer to...

Sen. Mumma Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration the following Question.

Yes, do that until you sort out the issue with the secretariat. November 5, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 45

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Sen. Catherine Mumma, you can proceed on with Question No.051 if you have resolved with the secretariat.

Sen. Mumma Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you can give your supplementary answer to that question. The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. Kipchumba Murkomen) : It is only at this instant that I can see the motive or the objective of this question. If that is the objective, to...

Sen. Cathy Mumma, which question are you reading? Sen. Mumma Just give me a few minutes I will explain myself.

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Sen. Mumma Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion- THAT, the Senate notes the Report of the Kenya Parliamentary Delegation to the 150th Assembly of the Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) and related meetings held in Tashkent, Uzbekistan from 5th to 9th April, 2025, laid on the Table of...

Sen. Mumma Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to reply. First, I thank colleagues who have contributed to this Motion and to inform you that this is one of the fora that I have attended and witnessed serious commitment by the delegations. At every Assembly of this forum, they look for...

Hon. Senators, it is now 1.00

Sen. Mumma Order, Sen. Tabitha. Order, Sen. Kavindu Muthama.

Sen. Mumma Refrain from going to that direction.

Sen. Mumma Sen. Mumma, you did when you said that the kind of nonsense they give you is to rubberstamp.

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Sen. Mumma Thank you, Sen. Mumma. Now, Hon. Senators, I will call upon the Mover, Sen. Tabitha Mutinda to reply. (Sen. Olekina spoke off record) Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, Sen. Olekina is requesting that you donate two minutes of your time because I have already called you. (Sen. Osotsi spoke off...

Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I do not know what the system is all about, whether my name is not being seen or whether there is some strategic arrangement.

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Sen. Mumma Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I request that you allow me to read my tribute to Baba. My Baba, our Baba, Kenyan statesman number one, the great human rights defender, the conscience of this nation. I am heartbroken, I am numbed yet in this grief,...