The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You are a good debater, but today, Sen. Cherarkey has diverted your mind. Focus and make your point. June 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 23 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) House. Could you also refrain from doing that? I do not think it is good for...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) On a point of information, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. From the onset, I have captured quite a number of presentations made by members of this House, especially members of the Committee on Delegated Legislation. We have had a very rough time, especially in this committee, where I remember in one particular...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir--- The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You are a good debater, but today, Sen. Cherarkey has diverted your mind. Focus and make your point.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Asante, Mheshimiwa Naibu Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Mswada wa marekebisho ya sheria ya kanuni za kisheria, yaani, statutory instruments. Kwanza kabisa, najiunga na Maseneta wenzangu ambao wamechangia Mswada huu hapo awali. Pili, sina pingamizi za kimsingi kwa kifungu cha kwanza, cha pili, cha...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I hope as we go for Division after Members’ debate, we will enrich the Bill further. The whole point is to ensure that the children feel included, cared for and families do not feel left alone. Autism is a huge burden, as it came out during the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)House. Could you also refrain from doing that? I do not think it is good for you or your colleague to use unpalatable language.Sen. Osotsi, conclude.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)The Deputy Speaker is a respected Njuri Njeke Elder. He is beyond Parliament, he is on another level; he talks with the higher beings.Under Standing Order No.105, is it in order for the distinguished Senator for Vihiga County and one of the removed Orange Democratic Movement...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for this opportunity. The Autism Management Bill (Senate Bills No.19 of 2025) is highly anticipated by families and Kenyans living with autism and parents who have been raising autistic children on their own without any support from the state. The proposals in this Bill include...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)does not matter how many haters you have or how many people vote for you because they think you are a saint.I talked about a conversation. I think everything that is happening now, our forefathers and parents went through the same thing in stages. They had...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)Madam Temporary Speaker, I hope as we go for Division after Members’ debate, we will enrich the Bill further. The whole point is to ensure that the children feel included, cared for and families do not feel left alone. Autism is a huge burden, as it...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Catherine Mumma.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Julius Murgor.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Cherarkey. Before him, let me first make this communication. (Interruption of debate on Motion) June 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 19 COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM MUSINGU BOYS HIGH SCHOOL

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Wafula, I think, you had not concluded your welcoming remarks. Please, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Actually, you said he was not emotional, but, you know, the HANSARD is very clear and I was really keen listening to you. I thought there would be a Member who might raise a point of order on your statements.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) So, can you verify now your facts?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Wafula, there may be a point of information from Sen. Mungatana---

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You know, Sen. Cherarkey was signaling me because he also wanted to give you the list of MPs and governors, cabinet secretaries from Kapsabet Boys. (Laughter)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) When you allege some issues that you cannot really substantiate--- This Governor, His Excellency Ahmed Abdullahi cannot be able to come to this Floor to defend himself---

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) He did withdraw about the shedding of tears. He has withdrawn that bit. Can you really discuss the report without any issues? Sen. Cherarkey: No, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I hope my colleagues had mentioned the issue of health across the country. They were tying...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, you may proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) There is a point of order from Sen. Veronica Maina.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Decide whether it is Madam Speaker or Mr. Speaker, Sir. ADMINISTRATION OF THE COUNTY PENSION FUND

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the reason that we seek this House to give us an extension of time at the Committee on Delegated Legislation is because there are four important traffic regulations and rules that are being introduced. May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 24 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Order,...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on a matter of inter-county concern regarding administration of the County Pension Fund (CPF) . Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in the statement, the committee...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to thank the honourable Chairperson, Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, for moving this Motion on extension of time. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I ask to be protected from Sen. Cherarkey. (Sen. Kinyua spoke off record) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I join you in welcoming Nkuene Girls' Secondary School, which is one of the best performing schools currently in the entire Meru and Tharaka Nithi regions. We are proud of you as a region and country. This time around, I hope you will have...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I think it is fair even though this looks like a Procedural Motion. Ideally, this is not a Procedural Motion. When you extend time that is prescribed in the Standing Orders, it is no longer procedural, but substantive because there is a reason those timelines were...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) There are Members interested to in contributing to this Motion. Proceed, Sen. M. Kajwang’. (Loud consultations) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to move the following Motion- THAT AWARE THAT, the Traffic (School Transport) Rules, 2026 (Legal Notice No.11 of 2026) ; the...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also rise to support the Motion seeking to extend the time of the Committee. From what the Chairperson and the Member who seconded the Motion said, the NTSA wants to come up with a raft of measures, especially doing inspection on all vehicles that are...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Decide whether it is Madam Speaker or Mr. Speaker, Sir. ADMINISTRATION OF THE COUNTY PENSION FUND

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the reason that we seek this House to give us an extension of time at the Committee on Delegated Legislation is because there are four important traffic regulations and rules that are being introduced. May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 24 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Order,...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on a matter of inter-county concern regarding administration of the County Pension Fund (CPF) . Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in the statement, the committee...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to thank the honourable Chairperson, Sen. Gataya Mo Fire, for moving this Motion on extension of time. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I ask to be protected from Sen. Cherarkey. (Sen. Kinyua spoke off record) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I join you in welcoming Nkuene Girls' Secondary School, which is one of the best performing schools currently in the entire Meru and Tharaka Nithi regions. We are proud of you as a region and country. This time around, I hope you will have...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I think it is fair even though this looks like a Procedural Motion. Ideally, this is not a Procedural Motion. When you extend time that is prescribed in the Standing Orders, it is no longer procedural, but substantive because there is a reason those timelines were...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) There are Members interested to in contributing to this Motion. Proceed, Sen. M. Kajwang’. (Loud consultations) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to move the following Motion- THAT AWARE THAT, the Traffic (School Transport) Rules, 2026 (Legal Notice No.11 of 2026) ; the...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also rise to support the Motion seeking to extend the time of the Committee. From what the Chairperson and the Member who seconded the Motion said, the NTSA wants to come up with a raft of measures, especially doing inspection on all vehicles that are...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, the Senate Majority Leader. In my opinion, you should not complain, but compliment them that they have a strong team. Harambee Stars should learn from them. The Senate Minority Leader, please, proceed to your seat. Hon. Senators, I have another Communication. VISITING DELEGATION...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , I commit the Petition to the Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources. In terms of Standing Order No. 238 (2) (a) , the Committee is required, in not more than 60 calendar days from the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, today, we have enough visitors visiting the Senate, so, just so relax, so that we welcome all of them. VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE INTER-PARLIAMENTARY UNION (IPU) May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 5 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next Order. Sen. Mumma, you have...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, let us settle down for business because we have the quorum. Clerk, please, read out the...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Sen. Olekina to second. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 19

Hon. Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Forest Conservation and Management (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.38 of 2025) and its approval thereof without amendments. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Sen. Olekina to second. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 19

Hon. Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Forest Conservation and Management (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.38 of 2025) and its approval thereof without amendments. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover. REPORT AND CONSIDERATION OF REPORT THE FOREST CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.38 OF 2025)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Sen. Olekina to second. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 19

Hon. Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Forest Conservation and Management (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.38 of 2025) and its approval thereof without amendments. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover. REPORT AND CONSIDERATION OF REPORT THE FOREST CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.38 OF 2025)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, the Senate Majority Leader. In my opinion, you should not complain, but compliment them that they have a strong team. Harambee Stars should learn from them. The Senate Minority Leader, please, proceed to your seat. Hon. Senators, I have another Communication. VISITING DELEGATION...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , I commit the Petition to the Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources. In terms of Standing Order No. 238 (2) (a) , the Committee is required, in not more than 60 calendar days from the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, today, we have enough visitors visiting the Senate, so, just so relax, so that we welcome all of them. VISITING DELEGATION FROM THE INTER-PARLIAMENTARY UNION (IPU) May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 5 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next Order. Sen. Mumma, you have...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Clerk, do we have a quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, kindly, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, let us settle down for business because we have the quorum. Clerk, please, read out the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover. REPORT AND CONSIDERATION OF REPORT THE FOREST CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.38 OF 2025)